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BALDWIN Estate 5077 Bethpage Half Dummy Knob with R027 Rose
KEY FEATURES
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Matches the look and feel of an active passage, privacy or entry door without the function of a lock or latch within the 2.125" standard door preparation.
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Full Dummy sets include 2 knobs or levers, 2 roses and mounting hardware.
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Our Lifetime Satin Nickel finish is create by nickel-plating solid brass, to bring about the beauty of the warm and smooth silver tone, combined with the weight and quality of brass. This satin, matte-like PVD finish is extremely durable and is backed by our Limited Lifetime Finish™ Warranty.
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Dependability, quality, and high design. Baldwin's Quick Ship items are ready to ship to you within 5 business days from ordering.
FEATURES
- Works with 1-3/8” and 1-3/4” thick doors
- PASS and PRIV functions ship with a full lip strike and Pre-Drilled Door Adaptor.
- Quick Ship is only available with 2 3/8” backset latch.
- Ships with a Full Lip Strike.
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Product Specs
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Subcategory:
- Door Knobs
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Keyed:
- No
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Edge Bore:
- 1"
- Collection:
- Estate Series
- Product Attribute:
- Cylindrical Locks
- Product Model:
- 5077
- Backset (Distance):
- 2-3/8 or 2-3/4
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Door Hand Direction:
- Reversible
- Product Design:
- Traditional
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Baldwin 5077112IDM – Frequently Asked Questions
1) What is a half dummy knob and what does the Baldwin 5077 Bethpage actually do?
A half dummy is a single knob with no latch and no moving mechanism. The Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage with R027 rose mounts one knob on one face of the door so it matches the look of an adjacent passage, privacy or entry door, but it does not latch or lock. Typical uses are closet doors, pantry doors, and the inactive leaf of a French or double door where you only need something to pull on.
2) Will a Baldwin 5077 half dummy cover the existing 2-1/8 inch bore hole in my door?
Yes. The Bethpage half dummy is made to mount within the standard 2-1/8 inch door preparation, so it drops onto a door already bored for a passage, privacy or entry lockset. Doors are 1-3/8 and 1-3/4 inch thick per the spec, which covers both the common older interior door and the standard modern one.
3) Is the Baldwin 5077 Bethpage rated for commercial door traffic?
No. It's classed residential, part of Baldwin's Estate Series with a traditional design. For a commercial corridor or an institutional standardization program, look at a Grade 2 commercial dummy trim like the Schlage A170 single dummy or the BEST 6K Series single dummy trim instead.
4) What is a comparable single dummy knob to the Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage for a commercial-style opening?
The Schlage A170 is a single dummy trim in the A Series, rated Grade 2 with a heavy duty level and a door thickness range of 1-3/8 inch to 1-7/8 inch. The BEST 6K Series single dummy trim is also a Grade 2 non-keyed cylindrical knob at a medium duty level. Both are dummy function like the Baldwin 5077 Bethpage, meaning no latch operation, and both carry an ANSI grade, while the 5077 Bethpage is an Estate Series residential knob with a traditional design.
5) I need a working latch on the door, not a dummy knob. What should I order instead of the 5077 Bethpage?
The Baldwin 5077 Bethpage is a dummy knob, so it mounts to the face of the door with no latch or lock action. For a latching passage knob, the Omnia 434/PA is a traditional egg-shaped knob latchset in solid brass, and the Pamex FTF in passage function is a Grade 3 Baron knob lockset for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. If the room needs a thumbturn, the Pamex FTF privacy version and the Dexter C2000 privacy ball knob both provide a bed and bath function, the Dexter being Grade 2.
6) Is the Baldwin 5077 Bethpage suitable for a high-traffic commercial corridor, or should I specify something else?
The Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage is catalogued for residential use and is a dummy, so it does not latch. For heavier openings, the Falcon X101 is a Grade 1 heavy duty cylindrical passage knobset, fire rated, for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2-1/4 inch, and the Schlage D10S is a Grade 1 heavy duty passage latch with an Orbit knob. Where a keyed function is needed, the Sargent 8XG04 is a Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset.
7) Does the Baldwin Bethpage half dummy have a handing, or will it work on a left or right hand door?
It's reversible, so handing is not something you specify. Mount it on either face of a left or right hand door.
8) What finishes does the Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage knob come in?
Two: 003 Polished Brass PVD and 112 Venetian Bronze. Both are PVD-type finishes on the Estate Series line, which matters if you are matching a dummy to live locksets already on the other doors, since you want to order the same Baldwin finish code across the set.
9) I need a dummy knob for a pair of French doors, one on each side. What are my options?
For trim on both faces you want a dummy pair rather than a half dummy. Emtek sells dummy pairs in the Arts and Crafts Hammered Egg knob and the Classic Brass Crystal Georgetown and Providence knobs. The Baldwin 5077 Bethpage half dummy covers one face only, so on a pair of doors you would order two of them if the doors each need just one interior knob.
10) Can the Bethpage half dummy be keyed or locked?
No. It is non-keyed with no cylinder and no latch mechanism at all. If you need to lock the door, order the keyed entry or privacy version of the 5077 Bethpage, or for a commercial opening a keyed lock such as the Corbin Russwin CK4851 entrance/office cylindrical knob lock.
11) Do I need a strike plate or latch with the 5077 half dummy?
No. There's no latch, so no strike prep in the frame and nothing in the door edge. Baldwin ships a full lip strike with the latching functions of the 5077 (passage and privacy also come with a pre-drilled door adaptor), but a dummy needs none of that. Mounting hardware for the rose is all that's involved.
12) Will a passage knob work as a substitute for the 5077 Bethpage half dummy on a closet door with no latch?
No. A passage knob such as the Arrow MK01 or the Corbin Russwin CK4410, both Grade 2 non-keyed passage function for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch, operates a latch and requires the full bore and edge prep. The Baldwin 5077 Bethpage is a dummy that mounts within the 2.125 inch standard door preparation without any lock or latch function, which is what a false or inactive door panel needs.
13) I need a keyed knob to match the look of the 5077 Bethpage dummy on the same set of doors. What are the options?
The Baldwin 5077 Bethpage is non-keyed. For keyed entry knobs, the Kwikset 400P-CP Polo is a Grade 3 keyed entry knob for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch with a round corner adjustable latch and strike, the Cal-Royal BER00 is a Grade 3 entrance and office knob with a Kwikset keyway, and the Dexter C2000 entry/office ball knob is Grade 2 and keyed. Deltana offers traditional keyed entry knobs including the 3381 Egg and 6171 Round for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch.
14) Can I install a half dummy knob on a blank door with no bore hole?
You can, but you will be drilling. Since a dummy carries no latch, nothing has to go into the door edge, so only the face mounting is needed. If you are working off an existing lock prep, that 2-1/8 inch bore is what the rose is sized to cover. The Bethpage spec also lists a 1 inch edge bore and 2-3/8 or 2-3/4 inch backset, which are the figures for a latch-bearing 5077 function, not for the dummy.
15) What is the difference between a solid brass dummy knob like the Baldwin Bethpage and a cheaper Grade 3 dummy?
The Baldwin Estate 5077 is residential decorative hardware, with the Polished Brass PVD finish built by nickel- or brass-plating solid brass for weight and wear resistance. Lower-cost alternatives that do the same mechanical job include the Cal-Royal BA40 dummy knob and the Bravura Biloxi dummy knobset with round trim, both Grade 2 or lower residential-grade options. The mechanical function is identical; what you pay for on the Baldwin is finish and casting quality.
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