BALDWIN ESTATE 5080 FILLMORE ONE-SIDED DUMMY KNOB WITH 5048 ROSE OVERVIEW
KEY FEATURES
- The opulence of light-catching crystal gives this antique-looking knob beautiful brilliance.
- Sold as a pair or an individual, knobs and levers can be used to create your own unique look.
- Pair mix and match knobs and levers with roses for interior sets like passage and privacy, or customize mortise lock sets utilizing handle set trim or a wide variety of escutcheon plates.
- This style is featured in Quick Ship as part of a complete Passage, Privacy, Full Dummy or Half Dummy set.
FEATURES
- Works with 1-3/8” and 1-3/4” thick doors
- PASS and PRIV functions ship with a full lip strike and Pre-Drilled Door Adaptor.
- Quick Ship is only available with 2 3/8” backset latch.
- Ships with a Full Lip Strike.
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Product Specs
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Subcategory:
- Door Knobs
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Keyed:
- No
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Edge Bore:
- 1"
- Collection:
- Estate Series
- Product Attribute:
- Cylindrical Locks
- Product Model:
- 5080
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Door Hand Direction:
- Reversible
- Product Design:
- Traditional
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Baldwin BAL-5080.IDM – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Does the Baldwin Estate 5080 Fillmore dummy knob actually latch, or is it just a pull?
It's a dummy, so there is no latch and no moving mechanism. The 5080 Fillmore knob mounts to the door face and stays fixed, giving you something to pull on. Use it on a closet door held by a ball catch or roller catch, on the inactive leaf of a French pair, or on a cabinet-style door where the hardware just needs to match the rest of the openings. If the door has to stay closed on its own, you need a passage or privacy set instead.
2) Is the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore sold as one knob or a pair for both sides of the door?
One knob only. The 5080 Fillmore with 5048 rose is a one-sided dummy, so a single knob and rose covers one face of the door. If you want a knob on both sides of an inactive leaf, order two. Baldwin sells these knobs individually or as a pair specifically so you can mix and match knobs, levers and roses across a house, and the Fillmore style is also offered as part of complete passage, privacy, full dummy and half dummy sets.
3) Will a Baldwin Estate 5080 dummy knob work on a 1-3/8 inch door?
Yes, and on 1-3/4 inch as well. The 5080 Fillmore works with both 1-3/8 and 1-3/4 inch thick doors, which covers standard interior residential doors and the heavier 1-3/4 inch doors used on entries and some newer interior openings.
4) Can I put a Baldwin Estate 5080 knob on a commercial building or an apartment corridor door?
It's a residential product, and it carries no ANSI grade. For a leased corridor, a school, or anything on a fire-rated opening, go with a graded commercial dummy trim: the Schlage A170 single dummy is Grade 2 heavy duty for 1-3/8 to 1-7/8 inch doors, and the BEST 6K Series single dummy trim is a Grade 2 medium duty option. The 5080 Fillmore belongs on interior doors in a house, a condo unit, or a hospitality guest room where the look is the point.
5) I'm using Baldwin 5080 Fillmore knobs on the closets. What do I order for the bedroom and bath doors so everything matches?
The Fillmore knob is offered in complete passage, privacy, full dummy and half dummy sets, so the same knob style covers a hall or closet door (passage), a bed or bath door (privacy), and the fixed applications. Order the same finish code across all of them. Passage and privacy versions ship with a full lip strike and a pre-drilled door adaptor, and if you're going through Baldwin's Quick Ship program those are built on a 2-3/8 inch backset latch, which is the standard residential backset.
6) I need a dummy knob on both sides of a double door - what should I order instead of the Baldwin 5080?
The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore is a one-sided dummy knob, so a pair of doors needing a knob on each face takes two of them or a knob sold as a pair. Emtek sells dummy knobsets as a pair: the Classic Brass Crystal Georgetown knob and the Providence knob both ship two knobs to a set, as does the Arts and Crafts Hammered Egg dummy pair. Emtek's Porcelain knobs with threaded rod are also sold two knobs per set. The crystal-bodied Emtek Georgetown and Providence are the nearest in look to the Fillmore, which uses a light-catching crystal knob on a 5048 rose.
7) What is the closest equivalent to the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore one-sided dummy knob from another brand?
The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore is a single dummy knob - a non-keyed knob with no latch, mounted on one face of the door. The Schlage A170 is the same single dummy trim in a Grade 2 cylindrical knob, rated heavy duty for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-7/8 inch thick. The BEST 6K Series 6K-1DT is also single dummy trim, Grade 2 medium duty. Both are commercial-graded knobs; the Baldwin 5080 is an Estate Series residential knob in a traditional design, offered in eight finishes including Polished Brass, Oil Rubbed Bronze, Satin Nickel and Polished Chrome.
8) The door actually latches - is a Baldwin 5080 dummy knob the wrong part?
Yes. The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore is a dummy knob, which means it does not turn a latch and holds nothing shut - it is pull trim for a door held by a ball catch, roller catch or magnet. For a door that needs to latch but not lock, a passage knobset is the part: the Pamex FTF Baron in passage function is Grade 3 for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick, the Dexter C2000 passage ball knob is Grade 2 for the same thickness range, and the Corbin Russwin CK4410 Global knob is a Grade 2 non-keyed passage/closet lock, also 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch.
9) Do I have to bore a full 2-1/8 inch cross bore for a Baldwin 5080 dummy knob?
No cross bore is called for on the door face. What the spec gives is a 1 inch edge bore, so the prep is a hole in the door edge rather than the through-bore a functioning cylindrical lock needs. That makes the 5080 Fillmore straightforward to add to a door with no existing lock prep. Baldwin publishes a 5080 knob-with-rosette template to lay it out.
10) Does the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore knob have a hand, or can I use it on a left and a right door?
Reversible, so the same knob goes on either hand of door. That matters when you're buying several for a house and don't want to track which openings swing which way.
11) What finishes does the Baldwin Estate 5080 Fillmore knob come in?
Eight: 030 Polished Brass, 044 Satin Brass PVD, 055 Polished Nickel PVD, 102 Oil Rubbed Bronze, 112 Venetian Bronze, 150 Satin Nickel, 190 Satin Black and 260 Polished Chrome. Two of those, Satin Brass and Polished Nickel, are PVD, which holds its color better than a lacquered brass finish in a bathroom or a sunny hallway. Baldwin uses the same finish codes across the Estate line, so a 150 knob here matches a 150 hinge or rose elsewhere in the collection.
12) Does the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore dummy knob take a key or a cylinder?
No cylinder, no keyway, nothing to key. It's non-keyed and provides no security at all, since a dummy knob does not retract a latch or throw a bolt. For a door that has to lock, look at a keyed function such as the Corbin Russwin CK4851 entrance/office knob lock with a conventional cylinder, or the Sargent 6G04 storeroom/closet knob lock with a single cylinder.
13) Which knob looks like a dummy substitute but is not one?
Trim-only knobs read like dummy knobs in a listing name but do a different job. The Sargent 78-2875 is an outside knob only with B design for the 7800 Series, the Sargent 28C-KNOB is exit device trim with knob and rose in entrance function for 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Imperial USA ED-BKL580 is knob trim in storeroom function for the ED-500 Series. Each of those mounts to an exit device or lock body and retracts a latch when operated; the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore is a dummy knob with no latch behind it and no device to attach to.
14) The closet door needs privacy or a key, not a dummy knob - what replaces the Baldwin 5080?
The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore is non-keyed and carries no locking function at all. For a bed or bath door needing a push-button, the Cal-Royal BER20 is a Grade 3 privacy knob with brass trim for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick, and the Dexter C2000 privacy ball knob is Grade 2 over the same thickness range. For a keyed opening, the Cal-Royal BER00 is a Grade 3 entrance/office knob with a Kwikset keyway, and the Corbin Russwin CK4851 is an entrance/office cylindrical lock with a conventional cylinder for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch.
15) Which dummy knobs fit the same 1-3/8 inch and 1-3/4 inch doors as the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore?
The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore works with 1-3/8 inch and 1-3/4 inch thick doors. Among dummy knobs, the Cal-Royal BA40 Barrington covers 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch, and the Schlage A170 single dummy trim covers 1-3/8 inch to 1-7/8 inch, so it reaches a slightly thicker door. The Fillmore is reversible, so the same knob serves either hand of door.
16) Is there a Grade 1 knob for a fire-rated or heavy-use opening where the Baldwin Fillmore will not do?
The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore is a dummy knob, so it takes no load and suits no rated opening. Where a Grade 1 knob is required, the Falcon X101 is a heavy duty Grade 1 cylindrical passage knobset with an interchangeable core, fire rated, for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2-1/4 inch. The Schlage D10S is a Grade 1 heavy duty passage latch with an Orbit knob, and the Sargent 8XG04 is a Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom/closet knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset. The BEST 8K Series is a Grade 1 heavy duty single cylinder entrance knob.
17) Can I use the Baldwin 5080 knob with an escutcheon plate instead of the round rose?
Yes. Baldwin builds the Estate knobs and roses as separate pieces so you can pair the knob with handle set trim or a range of escutcheon plates, including on mortise lock sets. As supplied, the 5080 Fillmore comes on the 5048 rose. Swapping to an escutcheon changes the door prep, so lay it out from the trim's own template rather than the 5080 rosette template.
18) What does the Fillmore knob look like, and where does it fit stylistically?
Crystal. The Fillmore is a faceted, light-catching crystal knob with an antique look, which is why it reads as traditional rather than contemporary. It suits period homes, restoration work, and interior doors in hospitality spaces where the hardware is meant to be seen. If you want the same decorative crystal idea from another maker, Emtek's Classic Brass Crystal Georgetown and Providence knobs are the closest peers, and Emtek's porcelain knobs with threaded rod are the alternative if you want a softer, non-faceted look.
19) Are Kwikset Polo knobs a substitute for the Baldwin 5080 Fillmore?
They serve a different opening. The Kwikset 200P Polo is a passage knob shipping with a 6AL latch and round corner strike, and the 400P Polo is a keyed entry knob with the same latch and strike; the 400P-CP is Grade 3 for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. All of those bore through the door and operate a latch. The Baldwin 5080 Fillmore mounts to one face with no latch and no strike, and uses a crystal knob on a 5048 rose in the Estate Series traditional design.
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