BALDWIN ESTATE K008 HOLLYWOOD HILLS ONE-SIDED DUMMY KNOB WITH R050 ROSE OVERVIEW
KEY FEATURES
- 2 1/4" Diameter Knob Handle Size
- Satin Nickel that is smooth and clean is a nickel-plated brass, bringing the beauty of the finish with the weight of brass. All covered by the Baldwin Limited Lifetime Finish™ Warranty, creating a crisp and clean look for both traditional and contemporary designs.
FEATURES
- Works with 1-3/8” and 1-3/4” thick doors
- PASS and PRIV functions ship with a full lip strike and Pre-Drilled Door Adaptor.
- Quick Ship is only available with 2 3/8” backset latch.
- Ships with a Full Lip Strike.
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Product Specs
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Subcategory:
- Door Knobs
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Keyed:
- No
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Edge Bore:
- 1"
- Collection:
- Estate Series
- Product Attribute:
- Cylindrical Locks
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Door Hand Direction:
- Reversible
- Product Design:
- Traditional
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Baldwin K008003IDM – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Does the Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills dummy knob have a latch, or is it just a knob?
No latch. The K008 Hollywood Hills is a one-sided dummy knob with an R050 rose, which means it is trim only: the knob is fixed, does not turn, and there is no latchbolt, no spindle through the door and no strike. It mounts to the face of the door and gives you something to pull on. Use it on a closet door or the inactive leaf of a French pair where a catch or roller already holds the door shut. If you need the door to actually latch, you want a passage set instead.
2) Is the Baldwin Estate K008 knob rated for commercial use?
Baldwin catalogues the Estate K008 as residential hardware. For high-traffic commercial openings, look at the graded cylindrical options: the Schlage A170 Single Dummy Trim is Grade 2 heavy duty, and the BEST 6K Series single dummy trim is Grade 2 medium duty. Both are dummy function like the K008 but built to a commercial cycle standard.
3) I need a knob that actually latches, not a dummy. What should I order instead of the K008?
Go to a passage or privacy set. The Corbin Russwin CK4410 is a Grade 2 non-keyed passage/closet cylindrical knob for 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors; the CK4310 is the Grade 1 version and takes doors up to 2 inches. On the residential side, the Pamex FTF Baron comes in passage and privacy, Grade 3, for 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Dexter C2000 covers passage and privacy at Grade 2 over the same thickness range. Pick privacy for a bath or bedroom, passage for a hall or closet.
4) What is the closest equivalent to the Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills one-sided dummy knob from a commercial hardware brand?
The Schlage A170 single dummy trim is the closest commercial-brand match in function: it is a Grade 2 cylindrical non-keyed knob lock in the A Series with a dummy function, and it fits doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-7/8 inch thick. Like the Baldwin K008, it is a single dummy - a knob and rose that mount to the door face with no latch and no key. The Schlage A170 is described as heavy duty; the Baldwin K008 is an Estate Series residential knob offered in eleven finishes including 003 Polished Brass PVD, 102 Oil Rubbed Bronze, and 190 Satin Black. If the opening is an inactive leaf, a closet false door, or a pantry door in a commercial corridor where the rest of the doors are A Series, the A170 keeps the trim family consistent.
5) I need a dummy knob on both sides of a double door, not one side. What should I order instead of the Baldwin K008?
The Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills is a one-sided dummy - one knob and one R050 rose for a single face. For a pair, the Emtek Arts and Crafts Hammered Egg dummy ships as a dummy pair, and the Emtek Classic Brass Crystal Georgetown and Providence knobs are also sold as dummy pairs. The Emtek Porcelain knobs come two knobs per set with a threaded rod, which is the through-door arrangement for a knob on each face. Ordering two Baldwin K008 units also gets a knob on each face, since each is an independent surface-mounted trim; the paired Emtek sets simply arrive as one item.
6) The door actually needs to latch shut. What replaces a Baldwin K008 dummy knob when a real latch is required?
A dummy knob has no latch and no key - it is pull trim only, non-keyed. For an opening that needs to hold closed, a passage knob is the direct step up: the Dexter C2000 Series passage ball knob is Grade 2, non-keyed, for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch; the Corbin Russwin CK4410 passage/closet lock is Grade 2 with a Global knob over the same thickness range; and the Corbin Russwin CK4310 is the Grade 1 version, rated for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch. The Baldwin Estate line's own passage and privacy functions ship with a full lip strike and pre-drilled door adaptor, so if the aim is to keep the Hollywood Hills knob styling and gain a latch, stay in the Estate family rather than swapping to a dummy substitute.
7) Can a Baldwin K008 dummy knob be used on a commercial storeroom or classroom door?
No - the K008 Hollywood Hills is a non-keyed dummy, so it neither latches nor locks, and it is a residential Estate Series knob. For a door that must secure, the Sargent 8XG04 is a Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom/closet single cylinder knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset, and the Sargent 6G04 is the Grade 2 standard duty storeroom version. For a classroom function, the Dexter C2000 Series classroom ball knob is Grade 2, keyed, for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. The Baldwin K008 belongs on inactive leaves, false fronts, and closet doors that only need a pull.
8) What looks like a dummy knob substitute for the Baldwin K008 but is not one?
Two categories get mistaken for it. Exit device trim - the Sargent 28C-KNOB knob and rose trim for 1-3/4 inch doors and the Sargent 78-2875 outside knob only in the 7800 Series - is a knob on a rose, but it is the outside trim for a panic device and does nothing without the device behind it. The Imperial USA ED-BKL580 knob trim is likewise exit device trim. Second, keyed-entry knobs such as the Kwikset 400P-CP Polo, Grade 3 for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch, look similar on the door face but carry a cylinder and a latch. The Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills is a self-contained one-sided dummy that surface-mounts with no latch, no strike, and no device behind it.
9) The door is 2 inches thick. Will a Baldwin K008 work, or is there a knob rated for it?
The Baldwin Estate K008 Hollywood Hills is stated to work with 1-3/8 inch and 1-3/4 inch thick doors. For thicker leaves, the Corbin Russwin CK4310 Grade 1 passage/closet lock and the CK4851 entrance/office lock both cover 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch, and the Deltana 3381 Egg Knob entry, 6171 Round Knob entry, and 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob are each rated 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch. The Falcon X101 Grade 1 heavy duty passage knobset with interchangeable core goes furthest at 1-3/8 inch to 2-1/4 inch. Those are latching functions rather than dummy trim, so confirm the opening actually needs a latch before switching.
10) Does the Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills carry a fire rating for a rated opening?
For a fire-rated opening the Falcon W101 Grade 2 medium duty cylindrical knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset and the Falcon X101 Grade 1 heavy duty passage knobset both carry a fire rating, and both are passage/closet function with a working latch. A rated door assembly needs a latching device, so a one-sided dummy such as the Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills - which has no latch and no strike - is not the part that satisfies a rated opening regardless of brand. Use the Baldwin on the non-rated dummy positions and specify a Falcon W101 or X101 where the door schedule calls for a rating.
11) Do I need to bore the door for a Baldwin K008 dummy knob?
A dummy knob does not need a 2-1/8 inch cross bore or a latch mortise the way a working lockset does, because there is nothing passing through the door. The K008 mounts through the R050 rose with screws into the door face. If you are replacing a working knob and there is already a bore in the door, the rose will typically sit over it, but the fixing screws need solid wood, not the open hole.
12) What finishes can I get the Baldwin Estate K008 Hollywood Hills knob in, and can I match my other Estate hardware?
Eleven finishes: 003 Polished Brass PVD, 031 Non-Lacquered Brass, 033 Vintage Brass, 044 Satin Brass PVD, 055 Polished Nickel PVD, 056 Lifetime PVD Satin Nickel, 076 Lifetime PVD Graphite Nickel, 102 Oil Rubbed Bronze, 112 Venetian Bronze, 190 Satin Black and 260 Polished Chrome. Those are Baldwin's own finish numbers, so if your existing Estate Series levers, knobs or hinges carry a code, order the dummy in the same number and it will match. Two of them are living finishes: 031 Non-Lacquered Brass will patina, and it will not stay identical to a lacquered or PVD brass on the next door.
13) Do I have to specify left or right hand for a Baldwin Hollywood Hills K008 knob?
No handing to call out. The Hollywood Hills K008 is reversible, so the same part goes on a left-hand or right-hand door and on either face. That matters if you are ordering a batch for a building and do not want to survey every opening first.
14) Can the Baldwin K008 be keyed or master keyed into my building's system?
No. The K008 Hollywood Hills is non-keyed and takes no cylinder, so it cannot go into a keyway or a master key system. For a keyed knob in the same family of openings, look at keyed entry knobsets: the Cal-Royal BER00 entrance/office is Grade 3 with a Kwikset keyway, and the Corbin Russwin CK4851 entrance/office takes a conventional cylinder.
15) Is a Cal-Royal BA40 or a BEST 6K single dummy trim the same thing as a Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills dummy knob?
All three are dummy-function knobs, but they are built for different jobs. The Cal-Royal BA40 is a dummy knob cylindrical lock in the Barrington BA Series covering doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. The BEST 6K Series single dummy trim is Grade 2 medium duty. The Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills is an Estate Series residential knob with a traditional design and a 2-1/4 inch diameter knob on an R050 rose, offered in eleven finishes such as 031 Non-Lacquered Brass, 033 Vintage Brass, and 055 Polished Nickel PVD. If the specification is a graded institutional trim, the BEST 6K and Cal-Royal BA40 speak that language; if the specification is a decorative brass knob matched to a finish schedule, the Baldwin does.
16) I need to standardize a whole apartment building on one knob and only some doors need dummies. How does the Baldwin K008 fit against multi-door options?
The Baldwin Estate K008 Hollywood Hills covers the dummy openings - inactive leaves and false closet fronts - in eleven finishes including 056 Lifetime PVD Satin Nickel, 076 Lifetime PVD Graphite Nickel, and 260 Polished Chrome, and it is reversible so hand does not have to be called out. For the doors on the same floor that need working hardware, the Schlage Residential F500 Plymouth with Georgian knob is a combo pack with adjustable backsets and dual strikes for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Sure-Loc Bergen round knob ships as a 6-pack with adjustable backset. Those multi-packs cover volume passage and entry openings; the K008 covers the dummy positions the packs do not include.
17) How big is the Baldwin Hollywood Hills knob itself?
The knob is 2-1/4 inches in diameter, which is a full-hand grip rather than a small accent knob. Worth checking against clearance if the door sits close to a jamb return, a cabinet, or an adjacent door in a tight hall.
18) Which brands offer a traditional-styled knob comparable to the Baldwin Estate Hollywood Hills for a period-appropriate interior?
The Baldwin K008 Hollywood Hills is a traditional-design Estate Series knob in finishes from 031 Non-Lacquered Brass and 033 Vintage Brass to 112 Venetian Bronze. In the same traditional idiom, Omnia offers the 434/0 traditional egg-shaped knob single dummy and the 442/00 #44 traditional single dummy, both solid brass; Emtek offers the Classic Brass Crystal Georgetown and Providence dummy knobs and the Porcelain knobs. Deltana's 6901 Portland entry knob covers 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors if the same opening needs a latching knob in a similar look. Match the dummy positions to whichever family the working hardware comes from so the rose profile agrees across the room.
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