Baldwin Reserve Ellipse Privacy Knob Set with Traditional Rose
- Ellipse Privacy Door Knob Traditional Rose is an elegant design with a locking mechanism perfect for moments when you prefer a little privacy or time to yourself.
- Knob or lever set paired with roses with a privacy lock to both close and secure any door with the 2.125" standard door preparation.
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Product Specs
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Subcategory:
- Door Knobs
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Keyed:
- No
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Privacy
- Edge Bore:
- 1"
- Collection:
- Reserve Series
- Product Attribute:
- Cylindrical Locks
- Backset (Distance):
- 2-3/8 or 2-3/4
- Product Function:
- Privacy/Bed/Bath
- Product Design:
- Traditional
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Baldwin PVELLTRR044 – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Can I put a Baldwin Ellipse privacy knob into a door that already has a knob on it?
If the existing door has the standard 2-1/8 inch cross bore and a 1 inch edge bore, yes, the Ellipse privacy set goes straight in with no new boring. Those are the two holes that matter: the 2-1/8 inch face bore for the knob and the 1 inch hole through the edge for the latch. Backset can be either 2-3/8 or 2-3/4 inches.
2) Is a privacy knob the right function for a bedroom or bathroom door, or do I need a keyed lock?
Privacy is the correct function for bed and bath. The Ellipse privacy knob locks from the inside with a push or turn button and has no key cylinder at all, it is a non-keyed lockset. If you want a key on the outside, that is an entry or entrance function instead, not this one. For a closet or hall door that only needs to latch and never lock, a passage set is the right call.
3) Is the Baldwin Reserve Ellipse knob rated for a commercial building or an apartment turn?
It is a residential lockset. The Ellipse privacy knob in the Baldwin Reserve line is built for interior residential doors, so for a commercial corridor, school or healthcare facility you want a Grade 1 or Grade 2 cylindrical lock instead. The Schlage D Series D10S is Grade 1 heavy duty, and the Corbin Russwin CK4310 is Grade 1 covering 1-3/8 to 2 inch doors. On the privacy side specifically, the Dexter C2000 privacy knob is Grade 2.
4) Is there a simpler privacy knob for a rental bedroom door where the Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is more finish than the unit needs?
The Pamex FTF Baron knob lockset in privacy function is a Grade 3 privacy knob for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick, and the Cal-Royal BER20 is a Grade 3 privacy knob with brass trim over the same door thickness range. Both perform the same bed and bath privacy function as the Baldwin Reserve Ellipse, which is a residential privacy knob set with Traditional roses in eight finishes including Polished Brass PVD and Satin Nickel. The Baldwin carries the Reserve Series decorative trim and rose choice; the Pamex and Cal-Royal are plain cylindrical knobs in a single trim style.
5) What is the closest equivalent to a Baldwin Reserve Ellipse privacy knob if the job needs a Grade 2 privacy knob instead?
The Dexter C2000 Series privacy ball knob lock is a Grade 2 cylindrical privacy knob for bed and bath doors, fitting doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick. The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is a residential privacy knob set with a 2-3/8 or 2-3/4 inch backset and a 1 inch edge bore, offered with Traditional Arch, Round, and Square roses. Both hold the door closed and lock from the inside without a key; the Dexter is a graded cylindrical lock in a ball knob, while the Baldwin is a decorative Reserve Series knob with selectable rose shapes and PVD and painted finishes.
6) Will a Baldwin Reserve Ellipse privacy knob work on a commercial corridor or classroom door?
The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is a residential privacy knob set with no key, so it is not the part for an opening that needs a keyed or graded commercial lock. For commercial bed and bath or graded openings, the Sargent 8XG04 is a Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset, the Schlage D10S is a Grade 1 heavy duty passage knob lock in the D Series, and the Dexter C2000 classroom ball knob is a Grade 2 keyed classroom function for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick. Match the function code on the door schedule rather than substituting a residential privacy knob into a commercial opening.
7) I need the same traditional look but the door is a hall or closet that should not lock. What do I use instead?
The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is a privacy function knob set, so it locks from the room side and is not what a hall or closet door wants. For a non-locking traditional knob, the Omnia 434/PA is a traditional egg-shaped knob latchset in passage function with solid brass construction, and the Omnia 434/0 is the matching single dummy for a door with no latch at all. Bravura also offers passage knobsets in traditional trim, including the Albany and Lynchburg with round trim, both Grade 2.
8) What looks like a substitute for a privacy knob set but will not actually lock the bathroom door?
Dummy knobs are the common mistake. The BEST 6K Series single dummy trim, the Schlage A170 single dummy trim, the Bravura Biloxi dummy knobset, the Omnia 458/0 single dummy latchset, and the Emtek Classic Brass Crystal Georgetown and Providence dummy pairs are all dummy function, meaning fixed trim with no latch and no locking. The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is a privacy function knob set with a locking mechanism and a 1 inch edge bore for the latch. Order dummy trim only for a door held by a ball catch or a fixed inactive leaf.
9) Can I get the Baldwin Ellipse knob in satin black or a bronze to match the rest of my doors?
Eight finishes are offered on the Ellipse privacy knob: 003 Polished Brass PVD, 044 Satin Brass PVD, 055 Polished Nickel PVD, 112 Venetian Bronze, 150 Satin Nickel, 152 Matte Antique Nickel, 190 Satin Black and 260 Polished Chrome. Every one of those is available with each of the three rose shapes, so matching a whole floor of doors is a matter of picking the finish code and holding it across the order.
10) Can I order a Baldwin privacy knob with a different finish on each side of the door?
Yes, split finish is an option you can request when ordering the Ellipse privacy set, and split rose is offered separately. That matters when the bedroom side of the door is finished to the room and the hall side has to match the corridor, or when a bathroom is done in one metal and the adjoining space in another. Both are free text options, so state the two finishes or the two roses you want.
11) I need matching knobs on a closet and a bedroom door. Does the Baldwin Ellipse come in a passage version?
The Ellipse privacy set is the locking version, for bed and bath. For a closet or hall door that only needs to latch, you want a passage function knob, and for a door that needs no latch at all a dummy knob is the right part. If the whole run has to match visually, note that Emtek offers dummy pairs in its Arts and Crafts Hammered Egg and Classic Crystal Georgetown and Providence knobs, and Omnia runs a traditional egg knob in both passage, the 434/PA, and single dummy, the 434/0.
12) The bedroom door needs a key from the hall side, not a privacy button. What knob do I order instead of the Baldwin Reserve Ellipse?
The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is non-keyed, so a keyed opening needs a different lock. The Deltana 6901 Portland knob is an entry function knob for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick, the Deltana 3381 Egg knob is entry function for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch thick, and the Kwikset 400P-CP Polo keyed entry knob is Grade 3 for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch and ships with a round corner adjustable latch and round corner strike. Deltana also builds the 6112 St. Thomas knob in privacy function for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch if the rest of the doors stay non-keyed.
13) Does a fire rated opening rule out the Baldwin Reserve Ellipse privacy knob?
The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is a residential privacy knob set. Where a fire rated knob lock is required, the Falcon W101 is a Grade 2 medium duty cylindrical knob lock with a fire rating and a 2-3/4 inch backset in passage and closet latch function, and the Falcon X101 is a Grade 1 heavy duty fire rated passage knobset with an interchangeable core. Match the rating on the door label before ordering trim for a rated opening.
14) Can I get the whole opening in one box instead of a separate privacy knob and deadbolt?
The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse is a privacy knob set on its own, ordered by finish and rose. For an exterior opening that needs knob and deadbolt together, the Schlage Residential F500 Plymouth with Georgian knob is a combo pack with adjustable backsets and dual strikes for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch thick. Combo packs suit an entry door; the Baldwin privacy knob suits the bed and bath doors behind it.
15) What decorative knob alternatives are there if the Ellipse shape is not the look the client wants?
The Baldwin Reserve Ellipse pairs an ellipse knob with Traditional Arch, Round, or Square roses in a traditional design. For other decorative knob shapes, Emtek builds porcelain knobs with threaded rod supplied two knobs per set and a Hammered Egg knob in the Arts and Crafts line, Omnia builds a traditional egg-shaped knob, and Sure-Loc offers the Arapaho knob and the modern Bergen round knob. Confirm the function you need separately, since several of these decorative knobs are dummy trim rather than a privacy lock.
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