Emtek 8365 #3 Sandcast Bronze Deadbolt With Flap - Double Cylinder
- Schlage® C Keyway
- Single Cylinder Deadbolt Includes extension collar for thin doors
- Standard Door Prep and Installation
- Solid Brass Cylinder, Housing, Collar, Thumbturn, and Rosette
- Hardened Steel Bolt
- Heavy Gauge Steel Understrike
- Brass Trim Strike Shipped with Every Deadbolt
- Handing Not Required
- Standard door thickness of 1-3/4". Specify if thicker.
- Standard latch is for 2-3/8” backset. Specify 2-3/4”backset if required.
Weiser® (WR5) Keyway
- Specify by adding “W” to the beginning of product code.
- No upcharge for cylinder substitution. Can be keyed into existing Weiser® system
Specifications:
- Backset: 2-3/8" or 2-3/4"
- Cross Bore: 2-1/8"
- Edge Bore: 1"
- Door Thickness: 1-3/8" to 2"
- Keyway: Schlage C
- Material: Brass
Manufacturer Resources:
Manufacturer Resources
Product Specs
- Subcategory:
- Deadbolts
- Collection:
- Sandcast Bronze
- Product Type:
- Deadbolts
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Deadbolts
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Lock Function:
- Deadbolt
- Keyed:
- Yes
- Lock Type:
- Tubular
- Series:
- Sandcast Bronze
- Theme:
- Rustic Living
- Electronic:
- No
- Keyed Function:
- Double Cylinder
- Handle Type:
- Deadbolt
- Product Attribute:
- Deadbolts
- MAP Policy:
- Yes
- Product Model:
- 8365
- Product Function:
- Double Cylinder
- Product Style:
- Sandcast Bronze
- Product Material:
- Bronze
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Substrate:
- Bronze
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Emtek 8365-FB – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Will the Emtek 8365 double cylinder deadbolt fit my door, and what prep does it need?
The 8365 is a tubular deadbolt that goes into standard door prep: a 2-1/8 inch cross bore and a 1 inch edge bore. It covers doors from 1-3/8 up to 2 inches thick, with 1-3/4 inches being the standard build, so if your door is thicker than that you need to call it out on the order. Backset is 2-3/8 inches unless you specify 2-3/4. If your existing deadbolt already sits in a 2-1/8 inch bore, this drops into the same hole.
2) What does double cylinder mean on this Emtek deadbolt, and is it right for a door with glass?
Double cylinder means a key on both sides. There is no thumbturn on the 8365, so nobody can throw or retract the bolt from inside without a key. That is why people put it on doors with sidelights or glass panels, where an intruder could break glass and reach a turn. The tradeoff is egress: a keyed inside is a problem on a bedroom or any door someone has to get out of fast, and many jurisdictions restrict it on a required exit. If you want a thumbturn inside instead, look at a cylinder x thumbturn deadbolt such as the Deltana 7312KA2's single cylinder counterparts or the Dexter DB1000 single cylinder.
3) Can I key the Emtek 8365 to match the Schlage keys I already use in my building?
The 8365 ships with a Schlage C keyway as standard, so it keys into an existing Schlage C system. If your property runs on Weiser, order the Weiser WR5 keyway version instead, which keys into an existing Weiser system at no upcharge for the cylinder swap. Both keyways are offered across all three finishes. Keying is specified when you order: keyed different or keyed alike, and you can supply a key code if you need it cut to an existing system.
4) What do I have to specify when ordering the Emtek 8365 sandcast bronze deadbolt?
Four things get chosen at order time. Keyway: Schlage C standard or Weiser WR5. Finish: Flat Black Bronze, Medium Bronze, or Tumbled White Bronze. Backset: 2-3/8 inches or 2-3/4 inches, matched to the hole already in your door. And keying: keyed different or keyed alike, with a field to give a key code. Door thickness only needs stating if your door is not the standard 1-3/4 inches.
5) Is the Emtek 8365 sandcast bronze deadbolt suitable for a commercial building or apartment entry doors?
The 8365 is built for residential use. It is a sandcast bronze decorative deadbolt aimed at homes and high-end residential entries, not the traffic and abuse cycle of a commercial opening. For apartment or commercial entries where you need a graded lock, the comparable set has Grade 1 double cylinder options like the Design Hardware D1 Series and the Dexter DB1000 double cylinder, or Grade 2 in the Delaney LU Series.
6) What is the closest equivalent to the Emtek 8365 double cylinder deadbolt from another brand?
For a double cylinder deadbolt in a decorative residential trim, the Baldwin Reserve Double Cylinder Contemporary Round Deadbolt and the Baldwin Reserve Double Cylinder Contemporary Square Deadbolt are both listed as double cylinder function, the same keyed function the Emtek 8365 carries. The difference is styling: the 8365 is a sandcast bronze piece with a flap over the cylinder, while the Baldwin Reserve pair are contemporary round and square trims. Baldwin's Estates 8011 Contemporary 1-5/8 inch double cylinder deadbolt is a third decorative option in that family.
7) I need a double cylinder deadbolt on a commercial opening, not a residential one. What should I use instead of the Emtek 8365?
The Emtek 8365 sandcast bronze deadbolt is classed as residential. For a commercial door, the Design Hardware D1 Series double cylinder deadbolt is Grade 1, extra heavy duty, for 1-3/4 inch doors. The Dexter DB1000 double cylinder is Grade 1 for 1-3/8 to 1-7/8 inch doors, and the Hager 3214 double cylinder deadbolt is Grade 2, fire rated, with a Schlage C keyway for 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors - the same Schlage C keyway the 8365 uses as standard.
8) The door needs a thumbturn inside instead of a second keyed cylinder. What takes the place of the Emtek 8365?
The Emtek 8365 is keyed on both sides, so egress requires a key. For cylinder x thumbturn instead, the Deltana CL200LM is Grade 1, the Delaney LM Series is a Grade 1 single cylinder deadbolt, and the Dexter DB1000 single cylinder is Grade 1 for 1-3/8 to 1-7/8 inch doors. On the residential decorative side, the Bravura 310B Elite traditional round and Brinks Raleigh Series round deadbolts are both cylinder x thumbturn.
9) My door is thicker than 1-3/4 inches. Does the Emtek 8365 cover it, and what else will?
The Emtek 8365 covers 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch doors, with 1-3/4 inch as standard and thicker doors specified at order. The Deltana 7312KA2 double cylinder deadbolt spans the same 1-3/8 to 2 inch range. If the door is thicker than that, the Corbin Russwin DL3011 cylindrical deadlock covers 1-3/4 inch to 2-1/4 inch, though it is a cylinder by blank plate deadbolt rather than a keyed-both-sides trim.
10) What looks like a substitute for the Emtek 8365 but will not drop into the same door prep?
Several deadbolts in the same aisle are a different animal. The Arrow 460 is a mortise lock strike, not a lock. The BEST 8T is a tubular deadbolt tube component rather than a complete deadbolt, and the Baldwin Reserve 8BR0618001 is a deadbolt spacer. The Codelocks CL200 is a surface deadbolt with key override and the Dormakaba D900 is a small case mortise deadbolt - both mount differently from the Emtek 8365, which is a tubular deadbolt using standard door prep with a 2-1/8 inch cross bore and 1 inch edge bore.
11) Which deadbolt should I standardize on across a facility if the Emtek 8365 is too decorative for the rest of the doors?
For a facility standard, the Hager 3215 single cylinder deadbolt has a 1 inch throw and is Grade 2 with a fire rating and a 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch door range; the Hager 3118 is Grade 1 classroom function with a Schlage C keyway and a 6-pin cylinder, also fire rated. The Cal-Royal CRB800 is a heavy duty single cylinder deadbolt with a UL 3-hour fire rated latch, and the Cal-Royal LSD is Grade 3 with an ADA ergonomic thumbturn for 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors. All of these run cylinder x thumbturn rather than the keyed-both-sides function of the Emtek 8365, which is the decorative bronze option for the entry doors in the same program.
12) Can I key an Emtek 8365 into an existing master key system, and what are the alternatives if my system uses a different core?
The Emtek 8365 ships standard with a Schlage C keyway and can be ordered with a Weiser WR5 cylinder at no upcharge to key into an existing Weiser system, with keyed alike or keyed different specified at order. If the building runs small format interchangeable core, the Arrow E61 is a Grade 2 single cylinder deadlock with SFIC prep less core for 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors, the Deltana CL200LAIC is a Grade 2 interchangeable core deadbolt with a 2-3/4 inch backset, and the Delaney LM Series is a Grade 1 less core deadbolt in dull chrome (US26D).
13) Is the Emtek 8365 deadbolt handed, and does anything ship with it?
No handing to worry about, so the same part works on a left or right hand door. Every 8365 comes with a brass trim strike and a heavy gauge steel understrike behind it, so you are not sourcing strike hardware separately. The bolt is hardened steel; the cylinder, housing, collar and rosette are solid brass.
14) What is the difference between the Emtek 8365 with flap and a plain round deadbolt?
The flap is the hinged cover over the exterior keyhole on the 8365 #3 sandcast bronze rosette. It is a rustic look, cast bronze with a visible surface texture, and the flap protects the key opening. Mechanically it is the same tubular deadbolt as a plain-rosette unit: 2-1/8 inch cross bore, standard prep. If the rustic cast look is not what you want, contemporary square and round trim double cylinder deadbolts include the Baldwin Reserve Contemporary Square and Contemporary Round.
15) My door is thinner than 1-3/4 inches. Will the Emtek 8365 still work?
Yes, down to 1-3/8 inches. The 8365 covers 1-3/8 to 2 inch doors, and Emtek includes an extension collar for thin doors so the trim sits tight against the face rather than standing proud. State your thickness on the order if it is anything other than 1-3/4 inches.
16) Can I match the Emtek 8365 to the rest of the hardware on my entry doors?
The 8365 belongs to Emtek's Sandcast Bronze collection, so it pairs with other sandcast bronze Emtek trim in the same finish. Three finishes are offered: Flat Black Bronze, Medium Bronze, and Tumbled White Bronze, and all three are available with either the Schlage or the Weiser keyway. Order every opening in the same finish code and keyed alike if you want one key across the set.
17) Is a Callan 210S the same thing as an Emtek 8365?
Both are double cylinder deadbolts, so they lock the same way, but they are not the same class of part. The Callan Model 210S is a Grade 3 double cylinder deadbolt; the Emtek 8365 is a sandcast bronze piece with a solid brass cylinder, housing, collar and rosette and a hardened steel bolt, keyed to a Schlage C or Weiser WR5 cylinder. The Delaney LU Series double cylinder deadbolt is Grade 2 and finished in stainless steel (US32D). If the opening is being specified by grade, those two answer it; if it is being specified by appearance in a bronze package, the 8365 is the one built for that.
18) I want keypad or electronic entry instead of a keyed-both-sides bolt. What replaces the Emtek 8365?
The Emtek 8365 is a mechanical, non-electronic deadbolt. For electronic operation on a comparable opening, the Delaney KP400 is a Grade 2 electronic deadbolt with a programmable remote, the Codelocks CL2200 is an electronic surface deadbolt in a brushed steel finish, and the Codelocks CL2210 is an electronic mortise deadbolt. For multihousing and hospitality credentialing, the Dormakaba Saffire LX-D and Nova-D are RFID electronic deadbolts.
19) Is there a simpler deadbolt than the Emtek 8365 for a door that only needs to lock from inside?
Yes. The Emtek 8365 is keyed from both sides. Where no key is needed at all, the Arrow E60 is a Grade 2 exit deadlock, non-keyed, blank plate by thumbturn for 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors. Where only one face gets hardware, the Callan Model 205S is a Grade 3 one-sided half-bore deadbolt, which uses a partial bore rather than the full 2-1/8 inch cross bore and 1 inch edge bore the 8365 requires.
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