Emtek Classic Brass Knobsets - Providence Knob, Dummy (Set)
- Can be ordered with any Brass rosette
- Sold as complete set.
Specifications:
- Door Thickness: 1-3/8" to 1-3/4"
- Mount: Surface Mount (no door prep required)
- Material: Brass
Manufacturer Resources
Product Specs
- Subcategory:
- Knobsets
- Collection:
- Brass
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Keyed:
- No
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Lock Type:
- Tubular
- Series:
- Providence
- Theme:
- American Classic
- Electronic:
- No
- MAP Policy:
- Yes
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Product Style:
- Traditional
- Product Material:
- Brass
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Substrate:
- Brass
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Emtek 8050.P.US15 – Frequently Asked Questions
1) I need a knob that actually latches, not a dummy. What should I order instead of the Providence dummy?
A dummy has no latch and no bolt, so if the door has to stay shut or lock, this is not the part. For a latching residential knob in a similar traditional look, the Baldwin Estate 5011 Colonial passage knob with 5058 rose or the Baldwin Estate 5000 Baltimore passage knob with a 2-3/8 inch backset and full lip strike will latch a hall or closet door. For bed and bath privacy, the Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage privacy knob or the Deltana 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob, which fits 1-3/8 to 2 inch doors, gives you the push-button lock a dummy cannot.
2) Which knob to use instead of the Emtek Providence dummy on a bedroom or bathroom door?
A dummy knob cannot lock, so a bed or bath opening needs a privacy function. The Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage privacy knob comes with the R027 rose, the Baldwin Estate 5000 privacy lock uses the 2 inch Baltimore knob with the 5148 rose, a 2-3/8 inch backset and a full lip strike, and the Deltana 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob covers doors 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch thick. The Providence is a non-keyed dummy, correct for a closet face or an inactive door leaf rather than a room that needs to be secured from inside.
3) Is there a commercial-grade dummy knob to use instead of the Emtek Providence on an institutional door?
Yes. The Schlage A170 single dummy trim is a Grade 2 cylindrical non-keyed knob lock rated heavy duty, with a door thickness range of 1-3/8 inch to 1-7/8 inch, and the BEST 6K Series 6K-1DT single dummy trim is a Grade 2 medium duty non-keyed cylindrical knob lock. Both are ANSI/BHMA graded, which the Providence is not written for: the Providence is a residential brass knobset in a traditional American Classic style, surface mounted with no door prep required. For a facility standardizing on graded hardware, the A170 or 6K-1DT is the spec-line answer; the Providence is the decorative answer.
4) What should be used instead of a dummy knob when the door actually needs to latch?
A dummy knob has no latch at all - the Providence is a non-keyed dummy that surface mounts with no door prep. If the door needs to stay closed, the passage function is the substitute: the Omnia 434/PA is a traditional egg-shaped knob latchset in solid brass with a 3 inch projection, the Baldwin Estate 5011 Colonial passage knob comes with the 5058 rose, and the Baldwin Estate 5000 passage lock pairs the 2 inch Baltimore knob with the 5048 rose, a 2-3/8 inch backset and a full lip strike. All three latch; the Providence does not.
5) Is the Cal-Royal BA40 dummy knob a drop-in replacement for an Emtek Providence dummy?
They share the dummy function but not the mounting. The Cal-Royal BA40 is a dummy knob cylindrical lock in the Barrington BA series for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. The Providence is a tubular brass knobset that surface mounts with no door prep required, covering the same 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch door thickness. On a door with an existing cylindrical bore, the BA40 covers the hole; on an unbored slab or a door where no prep is wanted, the surface-mount Providence is the one that goes on as-is.
6) Which knob replaces an Emtek Providence dummy on an exterior or entry door?
A dummy has no cylinder and no latch, so it is not an entry solution. For a keyed brass knob in a comparable traditional look, the Deltana 6901 Portland knob entry fits doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch, and the Deltana 3381 Egg knob entry and Deltana 6171 Round knob entry both cover 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch. On the graded side, the Cal-Royal BER00 is a Grade 3 entrance/office knob lock with a Kwikset keyway for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors. The Providence stays on the interior side of the job as non-keyed decorative trim.
7) Is the Emtek Providence dummy knob handed, and do I need one for each side?
Handing is not a factor on a dummy knob, since nothing rotates or retracts. It is sold as a complete pair, so one order covers both faces of a single door. If you are doing a set of French doors and want a knob only on the outside face of the inactive leaf, you are buying a single dummy instead, not this pair.
8) Which rosettes can I order the Emtek Providence knob with?
Seven brass rosettes pair with the Providence knob: #8, Oval, Quincy, Rectangular, Regular, Watford, and Wilshire. The knob is compatible with any of the brass rosettes, so you can match the rosette shape already running on the other doors and keep the escutcheon profile consistent across an opening even where functions differ.
9) What finishes does the Emtek Providence brass knob come in, and which ones will not change over time?
Ten finishes: Flat Black (US19), French Antique (US7), Oil Rubbed Bronze (US10B), Pewter (US15A), Polished Brass Lifetime (US3), Polished Chrome (US26), Polished Nickel Lifetime (US14), Satin Brass (US4), Satin Nickel (US15), and Unlacquered Brass (US3NL). Two are Lifetime finishes, Polished Brass and Polished Nickel, meaning they are the ones held to a non-tarnishing standard. Unlacquered Brass is the opposite by design: it patinas with handling. Oil Rubbed Bronze also lives in over time. For a property manager matching a whole floor, pick a Lifetime finish if you want every door to still look the same in five years.
10) Will the Emtek Providence dummy match the passage and privacy knobs already on my other doors?
If those doors carry Emtek Providence knobs from the Classic Brass collection, yes: same knob design, same brass rosette families, same finish codes, so a dummy on the closet reads identically to a passage knob on the bedroom. Order the same finish and the same rosette shape you already have. If the existing hardware is another brand, the knob profile will not match even at the same finish code, because US finish numbers standardize color, not shape.
11) Does a Bravura Biloxi dummy knobset do the same job as the Emtek Providence dummy pair?
Both are dummy function knobsets, so both are pull-only trim with no latch. The Bravura Biloxi dummy knobset is a Grade 2 unit with round trim. The Providence is a brass knob in a traditional American Classic style, sold as a pair and orderable with any brass rosette, with seven rosette shapes and ten finishes to match existing trim on adjacent doors. The Biloxi comes in the one round trim shape, so where the rest of the openings carry a specific rosette profile, the Providence is the one that can be matched to it.
12) Can a Schlage F500 Plymouth Georgian combo pack cover the same openings as an Emtek Providence dummy pair?
Not the same opening. The Schlage Residential F500 Plymouth with Georgian knob is a combo pack with adjustable backsets and dual strikes for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch, which means it is bored, latching hardware for a set of working doors. The Providence dummy pair is surface mount with no door prep and no latch, for an inactive leaf, a false door, or a closet pair. A house being hardware-matched throughout will often use both: functioning sets on the operating doors and the Providence dummy pair on the leaves that do not move.
13) Is a Sargent 78-2875 outside knob only the same thing as an Emtek Providence dummy knob?
No, and they are easy to confuse because neither one retracts a latch on its own. The Sargent 78-2875 is an outside knob only with B design from the 7800 Series, a trim component that mounts to an exit device. The Emtek Providence dummy is a standalone brass knobset that surface mounts with no door prep required and is not intended to drive or dress an exit device. Similarly, the Imperial USA ED-BKL580 knob trim is storeroom function trim in the ED-500 Series. If the door carries an exit device, the trim has to come from that device family, not from a dummy knobset.
14) For a rental unit closet door, is a Kwikset Polo passage knob or an Emtek Providence dummy the right choice?
It depends on whether the door needs to stay shut. The Kwikset 200P Polo passage knob is an interior hall and closet lock supplied with a 6AL latch and RCS round corner strike, so it latches the door closed. The Emtek Providence dummy is a non-keyed brass knob with no latch that surface mounts with no door prep required. On a bi-fold or a closet leaf held by a catch or magnet, the Providence dummy is the correct part; on a swinging closet door that has to hold itself closed, the latching passage knob is.
15) Is the Emtek Providence knob solid brass?
Brass, both the material and the substrate, from Emtek's Classic Brass collection. It is a traditional American Classic profile rather than a modern one, which is why it reads correctly next to older millwork and period trim.
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