Emtek Modern Designer Brass Knobset - Verve Knob, Dummy (Pair)
- Can be ordered with any Brass rosette
- Sold as complete set.
Specifications:
- Door Thickness: 1-3/8" to 1-3/4"
- Mount: Surface Mount (no door prep required)
- Material: Brass
Manufacturer Resources
Product Specs
- Subcategory:
- Knobsets
- Collection:
- Brass
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Keyed:
- No
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Lock Type:
- Tubular
- Series:
- Verve
- Theme:
- Contemporary
- Electronic:
- No
- MAP Policy:
- Yes
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Product Style:
- Contemporary
- Product Material:
- Brass
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Substrate:
- Brass
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Emtek 5057.VR.US19 – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Does the Emtek Verve dummy knob need a bore hole, or does it mount on the door surface?
No door prep is needed. The Verve dummy knobset is surface mounted, so it screws straight onto the face of the door with no 2-1/8 inch bore and no latch mortise. That is what makes it the usual choice for a closet door, a pantry door, or one leaf of a double door that stays fixed. If the door already has a bore from an old lockset, a dummy will not cover it, and you want a latching knob instead.
2) Does the Emtek Verve dummy latch or lock at all?
It does neither. Dummy means a fixed knob with no latch, no spindle turn, and no cylinder. The Verve is non-keyed and has no locking function, so the door it goes on needs a ball catch, roller catch, or magnetic catch to stay shut. If you need the door to latch, order the Verve in passage; if you need bed/bath privacy, order the privacy function.
3) Can I pick the rosette shape on the Emtek Verve knob, or is it fixed?
You choose it. The Verve knob can be ordered on six brass rosettes: Disk, Modern Rectangular, Modern, Neos, Square, and Urban Modern. That is how you match the dummy to the passage and privacy sets already on the other doors, so pick the same rosette family you used elsewhere in the house.
4) Which knob do I use on a storeroom or classroom door instead of the Emtek Verve dummy?
A dummy knob cannot secure a storeroom or classroom, so those openings need a keyed function. Sargent 8XG04 is a Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom/closet knob lock with single cylinder and 2-3/4 inch backset, and Sargent 6G04 is the Grade 2 standard duty storeroom/closet equivalent. For classroom function specifically, Dexter C2000 offers a Grade 2 classroom cylindrical ball knob, keyed and non-clutching, for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch.
5) What is the closest dummy knob alternative to the Emtek Verve dummy pair for a commercial-grade opening?
The Emtek Verve knob dummy is a residential brass dummy set, so for a commercial-duty dummy the Schlage A170 single dummy trim is the usual alternative - it is a Grade 2 heavy duty non-keyed knob trim in the A Series for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-7/8 inch. BEST 6K-1DT is another route, a Grade 2 medium duty single dummy trim in the 6K Series. The key ordering difference is quantity: the Verve dummy is supplied as a pair for both faces of the door, while the Schlage and BEST items are single dummy trim for one face.
6) I need a knob that actually latches the door, not a dummy - what should I order instead of the Emtek Verve dummy?
The Verve knob dummy is a non-keyed dummy set with no latch, so it will not hold a door closed. For a latching closet or hall knob, Corbin Russwin CK4410 is a Grade 2 passage/closet cylindrical knob for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, and Schlage D10S is a Grade 1 heavy duty passage latch with the Orbit knob. On the residential side, Pamex FTF30 is a Grade 3 passage knob lockset for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors and Kwikset 200P Polo is a passage knob supplied with a 6AL latch and round corner strike.
7) The door needs a privacy lock for a bath - what takes the place of the Emtek Verve dummy knob there?
The Verve knob dummy has no locking mechanism at all, so a bath or bedroom door needs a privacy function knob. Options in knob form include Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage privacy knob with the R027 rose, Deltana 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob for 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch doors, Dexter C2000 Grade 2 privacy cylindrical ball knob for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, and Cal-Royal BER20, a Grade 3 privacy knob lock with brass trim.
8) Can I use the Emtek Verve dummy knob on an apartment entry door, or do I need something keyed?
The Verve knob dummy is non-keyed with a dummy function, so it provides no security on an entry. For a keyed knob entry, Kwikset 400P-CP Polo is a Grade 3 keyed entry knob for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors with adjustable round corner latch and strike, Master Lock BC01 is a Grade 3 keyed entry biscuit knob, and Dexter C2000 entry/office is a Grade 2 keyed ball knob for the same thickness range. For heavier commercial traffic, BEST 8K is a Grade 1 heavy duty entrance knob lock with a single cylinder.
9) My door is thicker than 1-3/4 inches - what knob works where the Emtek Verve dummy does not?
The Emtek Verve knob dummy is rated for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. For thicker leaves, Corbin Russwin CK4310 is a Grade 1 passage/closet knob covering 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch, Deltana 6171 Round Knob entry and 3381 Egg Knob entry both cover 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch, and Falcon X101 is a Grade 1 heavy duty passage knobset with interchangeable core reaching 1-3/8 inch to 2-1/4 inch.
10) For a fire-rated door opening, what knob should I specify rather than the Emtek Verve dummy?
The Verve knob dummy is a residential dummy set and carries no latching hardware for a rated opening. Falcon lists fire rating on two cylindrical knob locks: the W101, a Grade 2 medium duty passage/closet latch with 2-3/4 inch backset, and the X101, a Grade 1 heavy duty passage knobset with interchangeable core for doors 1-3/8 inch to 2-1/4 inch. Choose between them on duty level and whether you need interchangeable core keying in the facility.
11) Why is the Emtek Verve dummy sold as a pair instead of a single?
The pair version gives you two knobs with two rosettes, one for each face of the door. That is what you want on a double door, a French door leaf, or any closet door you want to look finished from both sides. If only one face is visible, a single dummy such as the BEST 6K Series single dummy trim or the Omnia 434/0 single dummy covers it with one knob.
12) What finishes does the Emtek Verve brass knob come in?
Seven: Flat Black (US19), Oil Rubbed Bronze (US10B), Polished Chrome (US26), Polished Nickel Lifetime (US14), Satin Brass (US4), Satin Nickel (US15), and Unlacquered Brass (US3NL). Unlacquered Brass is the one to note, it is left uncoated and will patina over time rather than staying bright, so do not mix it on the same run of doors as Satin Brass if you want everything uniform.
13) Can I get one side of the Emtek Verve dummy pair in a different finish from the other?
Yes, split finish is an option on the Verve dummy pair, specified as a written note with the order. It is the usual move when a closet or French door faces a black-hardware hallway on one side and a nickel-hardware room on the other.
14) What is a simpler solid brass dummy knob if I do not need the Emtek Verve rosette and finish choices?
The Verve knob dummy is built around choice - seven finishes from Flat Black to Unlacquered Brass and six rosette styles including Disk, Modern Rectangular, Neos, Square and Urban Modern. If you do not need that configurability, Omnia offers fixed solid brass dummy knobsets: the 434/0 traditional egg-shaped single dummy, the 442/00 #44 single dummy with a 2-5/8 inch rose, and the 458/0 single dummy latchset with a 2-3/8 inch backset. Bravura BV34722 Biloxi is a Grade 2 dummy knobset with round trim. Note these Omnia and Bravura items are single dummy, where Verve is sold as a pair, and the Omnia and Bravura knobs are traditional shapes rather than the contemporary Verve profile.
15) Which knobs look like a substitute for the Emtek Verve dummy but will not work on a closet or french door pair?
Several knob trims read as dummy hardware but serve a different purpose. Sargent 78-2875 is an outside knob only for the 7800 Series and Sargent 28C-KNOB is exit device trim with knob and rose for 1-3/4 inch doors - both are trim for an exit device, not standalone door hardware. Imperial USA ED-BKL580 is likewise knob trim in the ED-500 Series with a storeroom function. The Emtek Verve dummy is a surface mount brass dummy pair requiring no door prep, which none of those trims replace.
16) I am buying knobs for a whole building of closet and entry doors - what pairs with or replaces the Emtek Verve dummy for volume work?
The Verve knob dummy is a residential brass dummy pair sold as a complete set, one listing per finish and rosette combination. For fleet standardization on lower-cost residential openings, Sure-Loc Bergen round knob ships as a 6-pack with adjustable backset, and Schlage Residential F500 Plymouth with Georgian knob is a combo pack with adjustable backsets and dual strikes for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors. Bravura offers matched Grade 2 knobsets across functions, including Albany and Lynchburg passage and Biloxi dummy, so a single knob look can run across passage and dummy openings.
17) What is the difference between the Emtek Verve dummy knob and a Cal-Royal BA40 dummy knob?
Both are dummy function knobs. The Emtek Verve is a contemporary solid brass dummy sold as a pair, surface mounted with no door prep required, offered in seven finishes and six rosette styles for doors 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch. The Cal-Royal BA40 is a dummy knob cylindrical lock in the Barrington BA Series, also covering 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors. The Verve suits a designer interior where finish and rosette have to match other trim; the BA40 is a plainer cylindrical-style dummy.
18) Is there a brass knob alternative to the Emtek Verve dummy that still has traditional styling?
The Emtek Verve knob is a contemporary brass design. If the room calls for traditional detailing in solid brass, Omnia 434/0 is an egg-shaped single dummy knob lockset in solid brass, and Omnia 442/00 is the #44 single dummy knob latchset with a 2-5/8 inch rose, also solid brass. Baldwin Estate 5011 Colonial passage knob with the 5058 rose is a traditional option where the door needs to latch rather than sit as a dummy.
19) What is the Emtek Verve knob made of, and is it solid brass all the way through?
Brass, both the material and the substrate, and it sits in Emtek's Brass collection. That matters for the unlacquered finish in particular, since a solid brass body is what lets it wear and patina evenly instead of flaking a plated coating.
20) Is the Emtek Verve knobset electronic or does it take a smart lock cylinder?
Neither. The Verve dummy is a mechanical, non-electronic, non-keyed tubular-style knobset with no cylinder and no wiring. If you want keyless operation on that opening, a mechanical pushbutton unit like the Lockey 3830 combination knob lock is a different product entirely and fits doors 1-3/16 to 2 inches.
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