Emtek Designer Brass Crystal Knobsets - Windsor Knob, Dummy (Pair)
- Can be ordered with any Brass rosette
- Sold as complete set.
Specifications:
- Door Thickness: 1-3/8" to 1-3/4"
- Mount: Surface Mount (no door prep required)
- Material: Brass
Manufacturer Resources
Product Specs
- Collection:
- Glass & Porcelain
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Subcategory:
- Knobsets
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Keyed:
- No
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Lock Type:
- Tubular
- Series:
- Windsor
- Theme:
- American Designer
- Electronic:
- No
- MAP Policy:
- Yes
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Product Style:
- Glass
- Product Material:
- Brass
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Substrate:
- Brass
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Emtek 8057.WS.US15 – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Does the Emtek Windsor crystal dummy knob need a hole bored in the door?
No door prep is needed. The Windsor crystal knob dummy set is surface mount, so it screws to the face of the door instead of going through a 2-1/8 inch cross bore. That makes it the usual pick for a closet door, a pantry door, or the inactive leaf of a double door where nothing has to latch.
2) What does a dummy knob set actually do, and is it the right function for a bedroom door?
A dummy knob is a pull only. It does not turn, there is no latch, no spring return, and no key, so it will not hold a door closed and it is not the right thing for a bedroom or bath. Use a privacy function there instead, like the Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage privacy knob. The Windsor dummy is for doors held by a ball catch or roller catch, or for the fixed leaf of a pair.
3) I need the same Windsor crystal look but the door actually has to latch - what should I order instead?
The Emtek Windsor crystal knob set is dummy function only, so it does not latch or retract anything. For a door that needs a working latch, the Omnia 434/PA is a passage latchset with the same traditional egg-shaped knob family in solid brass, and the Baldwin Estate 5011 Colonial passage knob with 5058 rose is another passage option. If the door needs to lock for a bedroom or bath, the Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage privacy knob with R027 rose and the Deltana 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob are privacy function.
4) Is the Schlage A170 single dummy a substitute for the Emtek Windsor crystal dummy pair?
Both are dummy function knob trim. The Schlage A170 is a Grade 2 heavy duty cylindrical non-keyed dummy trim in the A Series with a door thickness range of 1-3/8 to 1-7/8 inches, and it is single dummy trim. The Emtek Windsor crystal knob set is a residential brass glass-knob dummy sold as a pair and fits 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors. If the specification calls for a commercial Grade 2 dummy, the A170 answers that; if the requirement is a decorative glass knob on both faces of a French or closet door, the Windsor pair does.
5) Can I use the Emtek Windsor crystal dummy pair on a commercial corridor or classroom door?
The Emtek Windsor crystal knob set is a residential dummy with no latch, so it cannot secure or latch any opening. For commercial door functions, the Corbin Russwin CK4310 is a Grade 1 passage/closet cylindrical lock and the CK4410 is the Grade 2 version, the Sargent 8XG04 is a Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom/closet knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset, and the Dexter C2000 classroom knob lock is a Grade 2 keyed classroom function. The Falcon X101 Grade 1 passage knobset is fire rated and covers 1-3/8 to 2-1/4 inch doors.
6) My door is thicker than 1-3/4 inches - what dummy or knob option covers it instead of the Emtek Windsor?
The Emtek Windsor crystal knob set is rated for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors. For thicker stock, the Deltana 6171 Round Knob entry, Deltana 3381 Egg Knob entry, and Deltana 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob all list 1-3/8 to 2 inch doors, the Corbin Russwin CK4310 passage covers 1-3/8 to 2 inches, and the Falcon X101 Grade 1 passage knobset covers 1-3/8 to 2-1/4 inches. Those are latching functions rather than dummy trim.
7) Will the Emtek Windsor dummy knob work on a 1-3/8 inch door as well as a 1-3/4 inch?
Yes. The Windsor crystal dummy pair covers 1-3/8 inch through 1-3/4 inch doors, which takes in both the standard 1-3/4 inch exterior/commercial thickness and the older 1-3/8 inch interior door.
8) Which finishes does the Windsor crystal knob dummy pair come in, and can I mix two finishes?
Seven finishes: Oil Rubbed Bronze (US10B), Satin Nickel (US15), Pewter (US15A), Polished Chrome (US26), Polished Brass Lifetime (US3), Unlacquered Brass (US3NL), and French Antique (US7). Each is available with all three rosette styles. There is also an optional split finish field on the order if you want one face different from the other, for example a chrome side facing a bathroom and bronze facing a hallway.
9) What rosette styles can I get with the Emtek Windsor crystal knob?
Three rosettes are offered on the Windsor dummy pair: Rope, Lancaster, and Ribbon and Reed. All three are brass, and the knob can be ordered with any brass rosette Emtek makes, so you can match rosettes already on other doors in the house.
10) Is the Emtek Windsor crystal knob suitable for a commercial corridor or an office building?
It is a residential product, glass knob on brass rosettes from Emtek's Glass and Porcelain collection, and it carries no latch at all. For commercial openings that need a graded cylindrical lock, look at Grade 1 or Grade 2 knob locks instead, such as the Schlage D10S passage or the BEST 6K Series dummy trim for a commercial-grade pull.
11) What is a lower-cost dummy knob option than the Emtek Windsor crystal set?
Without comparing price, the simpler dummy knobs in the same function are the Cal-Royal BA40 dummy knob cylindrical lock in the Barrington BA series, which covers 1-3/8 to 1-3/4 inch doors like the Emtek Windsor does, the BEST 6K Series 6K-1DT Grade 2 medium duty single dummy trim, and the Bravura Biloxi BV34722 Grade 2 dummy knobset with round trim. These are plain metal knobs rather than the Emtek's brass and glass crystal knob with a choice of Rope, Lancaster, or Ribbon and Reed rosette.
12) What knob sets look like a substitute for an Emtek Windsor dummy but are not?
Several knob items are trim only or a different function and will not stand in for a brass glass dummy pair. The Sargent 78-2875 is an outside knob only with B design for the 7800 Series, the Sargent 28C-KNOB is exit device trim with knob and rose for 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Imperial USA ED-BKL580 is knob trim in the ED-500 Series with storeroom function - all of these are trim for a separate lock or exit device, not a standalone decorative pair. The Kwikset 200P Polo and Pamex FTF30 Grade 3 Baron are passage function with a working latch, and the Lockey 3830 is a mechanical keyless combination knob lock. The Emtek Windsor is a non-keyed dummy that surface mounts with no door prep.
13) I need matching knobs on several doors where some latch and some are dummy - what pairs with the Emtek Windsor crystal dummy?
For a suite of doors, Omnia offers both functions in the same traditional brass knob family: the 434/0 single dummy and the 434/PA passage latchset with a 3 inch projection. Baldwin's Estate 5000 line does the same with the 5000 2 inch Baltimore knob in passage with a 5048 rose and privacy with a 5148 rose, both with a 2-3/8 inch backset and full lip strike. The Emtek Windsor crystal knob is dummy only, in brass, and can be ordered with any brass rosette including Rope, Lancaster, and Ribbon and Reed, so finish matching across a set is done through the rosette and finish choice rather than by adding functions.
14) What is the Emtek Windsor knob made of, and will the crystal hold up on a door people use daily?
The knob is a cut glass Windsor design on a solid brass body and rosette, brass through the substrate rather than plated zinc. Since the dummy version has no turning mechanism to wear out, the only real wear points are the finish and the screws holding the rosette to the door.
15) Can I match the Emtek Windsor crystal knob on the working doors as well as the dummy doors?
Yes. Windsor is an Emtek knob design offered across functions, so the same crystal knob and brass rosette can be specified as passage or privacy on the doors that need to latch and as this dummy pair on the fixed or catch-held doors. Keeping one finish code and one rosette style across the order is what makes a hallway read as a set.
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