Emtek Lost Wax Cast Bronze Knobsets - Octagon Knob, Dummy (Pair)
- Can be ordered with any Lost Wax Bronze rosette
- Sold as complete set.
Specifications:
- Door Thickness: 1-3/8" to 1-3/4"
- Mount: Surface Mount (no door prep required)
- Material: Brass
Manufacturer Resources
Product Specs
- Collection:
- Tuscany Bronze
- Product Group:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Subgroup:
- Bored Locksets
- Product Type:
- Knobsets
- Subcategory:
- Knobsets
- Commercial/Residential:
- Residential
- Keyed Function:
- Non-Keyed
- Keyed:
- No
- Handle Type:
- Knob
- Lock Function:
- Dummy
- Lock Type:
- Tubular
- Series:
- Octagon
- Theme:
- Tuscany
- Electronic:
- No
- MAP Policy:
- Yes
- Product Function:
- Dummy
- Product Style:
- Tuscany Bronze
- Product Material:
- Bronze
- Product Category:
- Mechanical Locks
- Product Substrate:
- Bronze
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Emtek 70511.OCK.MB – Frequently Asked Questions
1) Does the Emtek Octagon dummy knob need the door bored for a latch?
No door prep is needed. The Emtek Octagon dummy knobset is surface mount, so it fastens to the face of the door with no cross bore or latch bore. There is no latch and no working spindle, it is trim only. That makes it the usual choice for a closet door, a pantry door, or one leaf of a double door where the other leaf carries the working hardware.
2) What is an equivalent dummy knob if a single dummy is needed rather than a pair?
The Emtek Lost Wax Cast Bronze Octagon knobset is a dummy function set supplied as a pair, with one non-operating knob for each face of the door. When only one face needs trim, single dummy knobs include the Schlage A170 single dummy trim, a Grade 2 non-keyed cylindrical knob, the BEST 6K Series single dummy trim, a Grade 2 medium duty non-keyed knob, and the Omnia 434/0 egg-shaped single dummy interior lockset in solid brass.
3) What should be used instead of the Emtek Octagon dummy knob on a door that actually needs to latch?
The Emtek Octagon dummy knobset is non-keyed dummy trim and surface mounts with no door prep, so it does not latch. For an opening that needs a latching but non-locking knob, passage sets include the Omnia 434/PA egg-shaped knob latchset in solid brass, the Baldwin Estate 5011 Colonial passage knob with 5058 rose, and the Bravura Albany passage knobset in Grade 2. For a bed or bath door, the Baldwin Estate 5077 Bethpage privacy knob with R027 rose and the Deltana 6112 St. Thomas privacy knob, rated for 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch doors, cover the privacy function.
4) Will the Emtek Octagon dummy knob work on a commercial opening that needs a graded lockset?
The Emtek Octagon dummy knobset is a residential tubular set with a dummy function, so it carries no keying and no latch. Commercial graded knob locks include the Sargent 8XG04 Grade 1 heavy duty storeroom knob lock with a 2-3/4 inch backset, the Corbin Russwin CK4310 Grade 1 passage/closet cylindrical lock for 1-3/8 inch to 2 inch doors, the Falcon X101 Grade 1 heavy duty cylindrical passage knobset with interchangeable core and a fire rating, and the Schlage D10S Grade 1 heavy duty passage latch with Orbit knob.
5) What door thickness does the Emtek Octagon bronze knob fit?
1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, which covers standard interior residential doors as well as 1-3/4 inch slabs. Because it is surface mounted, the knobs attach to each face rather than through a bored spindle hole.
6) What finishes and rosette shapes can I order the Emtek Octagon dummy knob in?
Two finishes, Flat Black Bronze (FB) and Medium Bronze (MB), each paired with your choice of #11, #12, #14 or #15 Lost Wax Bronze rosette, for eight combinations. Any Lost Wax Bronze rosette can be ordered with the Octagon knob, so you can match the rosette already used elsewhere in the house. There is also an optional split finish note field if you want the two sides finished differently.
7) Can I use the Emtek Octagon dummy knob on a commercial office or classroom door?
No. It is a residential product, non-keyed, with no latch at all, so it does nothing to secure or latch an opening. For commercial door duty look at a graded cylindrical knob lock such as the Sargent 8XG04 Grade 1 storeroom knob or the Falcon X101 Grade 1 passage knobset.
8) I need a working latch on the same door style, not a dummy. What matches?
The Octagon dummy is trim only. Emtek builds the same Lost Wax Cast Bronze knob designs in passage and privacy tubular functions, so you can run matching hardware on the doors that need to latch and use the dummy pair only on closet or false doors. If you want a graded cylindrical alternative in a similar dummy role, the BEST 6K Series single dummy trim is Grade 2 medium duty.
9) Can the Emtek Octagon dummy pair be used on French doors or a double closet door?
Yes, that is a common use. Since it surface mounts and has no latch, one pair gives you a pull on each face of a single leaf. For a pair of doors where only one leaf is active, put the dummy on the inactive leaf and a latching or privacy set on the active one.
10) Which knob sets look like substitutes for the Emtek Octagon dummy pair but are not?
Two groups are easy to mistake for it. Exit device and lock trim such as the Sargent 28C-KNOB exit device trim with knob and rose for 1-3/4 inch doors, the Sargent 78-2875 outside knob only with B design, and the Imperial USA ED-BKL580 knob trim in storeroom function are knob trim for a device or lock body, not a standalone pair of non-operating knobs. Keyed entry sets such as the Kwikset 400P-CP Polo keyed entry knob, Grade 3 for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Master Lock BC Series Biscuit knob keyed entry add a cylinder the Emtek dummy set does not have, since it is non-keyed.
11) Is there a lower-cost dummy knob option than the Emtek lost wax cast bronze Octagon pair?
The Emtek Octagon dummy pair is a residential lost wax cast bronze set offered in Flat Black Bronze and Medium Bronze with a choice of #11, #12, #14 or #15 rosette. Plainer dummy knobs without the cast bronze rosette program include the Cal-Royal BA40 dummy knob from the Barrington BA Series, rated for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Bravura Biloxi dummy knobset with round trim in Grade 2.
12) For matching several doors across a house, how does the Emtek Octagon dummy knob compare with multi-pack or combo knob options?
The Emtek Octagon dummy pair covers the non-operating doors, such as a closet or French door slab, and can be ordered with any Lost Wax Bronze rosette so the trim matches across the set. For the operating doors in the same job, the Schlage Residential F500 Plymouth with Georgian knob combo pack ships with adjustable backsets and dual strikes for 1-3/8 inch to 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Sure-Loc Bergen round knob comes as a 6-pack with adjustable backset.
13) What is the Emtek Octagon knob made of, and will the bronze finish change over time?
The Octagon knob is lost wax cast bronze, part of Emtek's Tuscany Bronze collection, offered in Flat Black Bronze and Medium Bronze. Cast bronze is a living finish material, so it develops character with handling rather than staying uniform like a plated knob.
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