Dorma 8600, 7000 Series Closer Arm With P86 Bracket
Round, Complete Tri-Pack NHO 8mm Rod w/P86 Bracket 0" to 4" Reveal
Manufacturer Resources
Product Specs
- Product Group:
- Door Controls
- Arm Reveal:
- 0" to 4"
- Included Components:
- P89 Bracket
- Warranty:
- 25 Year
- For Use With:
- 8600 Series
- Product Subgroup:
- Parts and Accessories
- Product Type:
- Surface Mounted Door Closers
- Subcategory:
- Surface Mounted Closers
- Commercial/Residential:
- Commercial
- Features:
- Non-Hold Open; 8mm Rod
- Product Function:
- Closer Complete Arm
- Arm Specification:
- Round
- Product Category:
- Door Controls
- Department:
- Door Hardware
Dormakaba ARP-689 – Frequently Asked Questions
1) What reveal can the DORMA 8600 Series closer arm with parallel bracket handle?
The arm covers a reveal of 0 to 4 inches, so it works on parallel arm installs where the frame face sits flush with the stop and on openings with up to 4 inches of reveal. If your reveal measures beyond 4 inches, this arm assembly won't reach and you need a different bracket arrangement.
2) Does this DORMA closer arm hold the door open?
No. It is a non-hold open arm, so the door closes every time it is released. That is what you want on a fire-rated or smoke opening, and it is the wrong choice if you need the door parked open for deliveries or loading. For a hold open version of a tri-packed arm from another line, the Accentra 51 Series and the Orca BHDC1958 hold open arm are the hold open equivalents.
3) What is the difference between buying the DORMA 8600 series closer arm with P86 bracket and buying a complete surface closer like the Norton Rixson 8501A?
They solve different problems. The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm is a complete arm assembly for door controls - a round, non-hold open tri-pack arm with an 8mm rod covering 0 inch to 4 inch reveal, used with 8600 Series closers, and it includes the P89 bracket. The Norton Rixson 8501A is a whole door closer: a Grade 1 tri-mount surface closer with an adjustable size 1-6 spring, meaning it brings its own body, hydraulics and mounting. Buy the DORMA arm when the closer body on the door is sound and only the arm is damaged or the reveal changed; buy the 8501A when the closer itself is being replaced.
4) I need a non-hold open arm on a commercial door but the closer body is also worn out. What complete closers use a tri-packed non-hold open arm?
Several complete closers ship with a tri-packed non-hold open arm, the same arm style as the DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket. The Accentra 1101BF is an industrial closer with adjustable spring sizes 1-4 and tri-pack mounting, and the Accentra 2701 is an architectural closer with tri-pack mounting and adjustable spring sizes 1-6. Design Hardware offers the 116 Series and 416 Series as heavy duty closers and the 316 Series as medium to heavy duty, all with a tri-packed non-hold open arm. If only the arm has failed, the DORMA arm keeps the existing 8600 Series body in service instead.
5) The opening needs the door to stay open on its own. Is a non-hold open closer arm the wrong choice?
Yes - the DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket is a non-hold open arm, so it will not hold the leaf open at any point in the swing. For an opening that needs hold open, the Accentra 51 Series is an industrial closer with hold open and tri-packed mount options in sizes 1-6, the Orca Hardware BHDC1958HO/PA is a hold open closer with a parallel bracket for 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Stanley Security A45-501HL is a long hold open arm for top jamb mounting. Hold open is a function of the arm, so specifying it on the arm is what decides the behavior at the door.
6) The reveal at our opening is deeper than 4 inches. What closer should be used instead of a 0 to 4 inch reveal arm?
The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket covers 0 inch to 4 inch reveal, so a deeper reveal is outside what it handles. A slide track closer sidesteps the reveal question at the frame: the Corbin Russwin DC5230 is a Grade 1 surface closer with a slide track arm as standard, pull side mounted, for 1-3/4 inch doors. Where a projecting arm is still wanted, the Corbin Russwin DC6200 and DC8200 are Grade 1 surface closers with a double lever regular arm, pull side mounted, both for 1-3/4 inch doors, and the Cal-Royal 700S is a Grade 1 dual valve sized closer with an adjustable tube arm.
7) What is the difference between an 8mm rod round arm and a standard closer arm?
The 8mm rod is the forearm connecting link diameter, and this one is round rather than the flat or tube style used on some closers. On a parallel arm install the rod takes the abuse when someone swings the door hard, so matching the rod spec back to the 8600 closer body it was built for matters more than the look of it.
8) Is this DORMA closer arm rated for commercial use?
It's a commercial door control part, sold as a service arm for surface mounted closers rather than a residential item. It replaces the arm only, not the closer body, so if the hydraulic body is leaking or the spring is gone this part will not fix the door.
9) My DORMA closer body is worn out, not just the arm. What full closer should I look at instead?
Replace the whole unit rather than the arm. Grade 1 heavy duty surface closers we carry include the BEST EHD9000 Series, the Sargent 1431 Powerglide, the Falcon SC71A and the Norton Rixson 1600BC Series storefront closer. For medium duty traffic, the Sargent 1131, the Norton Rixson 8501A with size 1-6 spring, or the BEST HD7000 with backcheck control. All are tri-mount style bodies, so they take regular, top jamb or parallel arm mounting the same way this arm does.
10) Can I use this arm to convert a closer to parallel arm mounting?
That's what the bracket in the kit is for. The arm ships as a complete tri-pack with the parallel arm bracket included, covering 0 to 4 inches of reveal, so you are not buying the bracket separately to move an 8600 closer to the push side of the door. Some other brands sell that bracket as a standalone piece, for example the Arrow DCN500 parallel drop plate for the DCN500.
11) Is the Arrow DCN500DP drop plate an alternative to a closer arm with a bracket?
No. The Arrow DCN500DP is a parallel drop plate for the DCN500 - a mounting plate that gives the closer body a surface to land on. The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series item is a complete arm assembly, a round non-hold open arm with an 8mm rod that includes the P89 bracket and covers 0 inch to 4 inch reveal. A drop plate does not transmit the closing force to the door; it relocates the body. If the arm cannot reach across the reveal, an arm rated for that reveal is the part to order, not a drop plate.
12) Our facility standard calls for a Grade 1 closer at this opening. What Grade 1 surface closers can be specified alongside DORMA 8600 series hardware?
The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket is a commercial door control part that pairs with the 8600 Series closer body, so grade at the opening is set by the closer it serves. Where a full Grade 1 surface closer is being specified, the BEST HD8000 Series is a Grade 1 heavy duty surface closer and the EHD9000 Series is Grade 1 extra heavy duty with adjustable spring sizes 1-6; the Falcon SC71A is a Grade 1 heavy duty surface closer and the SC81A is Grade 1 medium duty; the Sargent 1431 Powerglide is Grade 1 heavy duty and the Sargent 1131 is Grade 1 medium duty. Matching duty level to door traffic is the deciding factor once Grade 1 is satisfied.
13) The door needs delayed action for accessibility. Does a non-hold open replacement arm provide that?
No. The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket is a non-hold open round arm; delayed action is a hydraulic function of the closer body, not something an arm adds. For openings that need it, the Orca Hardware BHDC1958DA/PA is a delayed action closer with a regular arm and parallel bracket for 1-3/4 inch doors, and the BHDC2011DA/PA is a delayed action closer in the same regular arm with parallel bracket configuration, also for 1-3/4 inch doors. Both carry a tri-packed non-hold open arm, so the arm style at the door stays familiar.
14) We are replacing closers across a building instead of repairing arms. What is a lighter duty option than a heavy duty commercial closer?
Where the traffic does not justify heavy duty, the Arrow DCN314 is a Grade 1 surface closer, less cover, with a regular and parallel tri-pack arm and adjustable spring size 1 to 4, and the DCN325 is the same configuration with adjustable spring size 1 to 6; both are light duty. The BEST SL6000 Series is a Grade 1 light duty surface closer with adjustable spring sizes, and the LCN 1250 Series is a light duty closer in sizes 1-5 with all-weather fluid and ADA compliance. Repairing instead of replacing is the other path: the DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket restores an existing 8600 Series closer with a round non-hold open arm.
15) What finishes does the DORMA 8600 Series closer arm come in?
Five: 689 aluminum, 690 dark bronze, 691 light bronze, 695 dark bronze and 696 satin brass. If you are replacing a damaged arm on an existing opening, pick the finish code off the closer body already on the door so the arm doesn't read as a mismatched repair across a run of similar doors.
16) Will a Stanley wardrobe pivot or a Deltana DC10 do the same job as a DORMA closer arm?
No, neither is a substitute. The Stanley Security 327 is a heavy wardrobe pivot for doors 1-3/8 inch or 1-3/4 inch up to 150 pounds and the Stanley 341 is a wardrobe pivot for flush recessed or overlay doors 1-1/8 inch to 1-3/8 inch - pivots carry the weight of the leaf, they do not close it. The Deltana DC10 is a complete door closer, so it replaces a closer rather than serving one. The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm is a complete arm for an existing 8600 Series surface mounted closer, with the P89 bracket included.
17) Which finishes are available on a DORMA 8600 series closer arm, and what if the closers elsewhere in the building are a different brand?
The DORMA 8600, 7000 Series arm with P86 bracket comes in 689 aluminum, 690 dark bronze, 691 light bronze, 695 dark bronze and 696 satin brass, so a repaired arm can be matched to the closers already hanging. Where a whole opening is being changed out to match a different standard, the LCN 1460T is a heavy duty surface closer in a powder coat finish, and the Sargent 1331 is a Grade 1 medium duty closer with a universal aluminum body. Finish designations follow the same BHMA numbering across brands, so a 689 arm reads the same on the door regardless of who made the closer.
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